DavidTwo 72 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Seriously, why do we even have this? It's done more harm than good and has banned people just for trying to spawn their phases. So here's my proposal. Either get rid of the Warden or up the count it takes until the Warden either mutes or bans you. Or create something where Players can just remove their own Warden bans. It's getting ridiculous. Not many of the staff are on at the same time to take care of those that get Warden banned. So what the hell is going on? What's the deal with it? Why do we even have this? I hate Maiev. What a bitch of a Warden. Totally unrelated Wardens. I know. Or as I posted below Eclipse's post; let's modify the warden so it at least doesn't ban after the 10th object spawned at the same time. People like building. This is going to be the main concern when it comes to building big phases on here. There has to be a way to increase the cap or something. Edited March 24, 2018 by DavidTwo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 9 Posted March 24, 2018 I'm rather indifferent, since I've never had an issue with it. I get people mess up and forget about it, but you'd think it would be easy enough to remember to not spawn objects in the same place. That could just be a personal experience with me though. Still, I understand where you're coming from. All I see are people who don't need to be banned, being banned. If I was affected by it, I would probably agree as well. The stars align; Elune be with you. The stars align; Elune be with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidTwo 72 Posted March 24, 2018 I mean, I don't think we need to truly get rid of it. That's just me being irate at seeing so many people getitng banned from the Warden at once. At the most, I would like to see it improved upon so not many people are banned for accidentally spawning too many at once in the same place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 9 Posted March 24, 2018 Fair enough. That at least makes the most sense. The stars align; Elune be with you. The stars align; Elune be with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romeo 320 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) i agree it shouldnt be there, at least not so harschly strict as it is. i havent ran into nay problems but considering a large portion of the players on epsilon likes to build its sad to see them punished for creating content (even if they wont host lolllllllllllllllll) Edited March 24, 2018 by Romeo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erkor 119 Posted March 25, 2018 sOrRy Warden mWorking PErFEctly fine, certain members of the staff team say as yet another person gets banned "JuST reMembER to Move :KJiSS:" Remove it. It has no practical use, it's horribly inefficient, and it does its job worse than a trigger-happy US police officer. [Gunmar] says: "I can't believe this 'Arahi' woman went down so fast. Storm my arse." Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Kalrihk Blackrune 14 Posted March 25, 2018 iT sToPs Us FrOm GeTtiNg DdOS'D as four more players get banned Mindscape slowly raises out from his bush UsE mY nEw AdDoN iT wIlL StOp YoU fRoM gEtTiNg BaNnEd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron 8 Posted March 25, 2018 I'm just going to keep an eye on this thread until Tia comes in to sing this stupid system's praises, so I can tear his posts up word by word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xeslite 36 Posted March 25, 2018 the warden is fixed in 7.3. so you shouldn't be asking for it to be fixed. you should be asking 7.3 when? EpsilonWoW Connection Guide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erkor 119 Posted March 25, 2018 youre basically telling us its never getting fixed [Gunmar] says: "I can't believe this 'Arahi' woman went down so fast. Storm my arse." Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 4 Posted March 26, 2018 Wasnt it implemented because some guy literally built an Auschwitz concentration camp roleplay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romeo 320 Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Adam said: Wasnt it implemented because some guy literally built an Auschwitz concentration camp roleplay? This doesn't have anything to do with this server, nor does it prevent building a concentration camp? The warden seems to ban players who frequently spawn in the same place, unless you're totally disabled, I think you can build perfectly fine without getting banned. So... no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Kalrihk Blackrune 14 Posted March 26, 2018 On that note, I also have a concentration camp for Elves in one of my phases. No problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erkor 119 Posted March 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Romeo said: This doesn't have anything to do with this server, nor does it prevent building a concentration camp? The warden seems to ban players who frequently spawn in the same place, unless you're totally disabled, I think you can build perfectly fine without getting banned. So... no. wowee here's tia-proxy number one "WOW just keep _MO_VING guys" No. You can't just keep moving. It's not a fucking instinct to move some units every time you build. You stand perfectly still and rifle through objects like a model catalogue. Why the fucking hell would you be forced to comply to a broken-to-shit bot just because an obnoxious staff member loves almost as much as his mirror image? It's fucking retarded. It serves no purpose. It hasn't banned anyone who intended to spawn something that could be viewed as ~~~"offensive"~~~ nor has any crasher been found by it, I fucking bet you. Everyone recently banned by this pile of shit trashcan bot has been banned while trying to find a specific object. [Gunmar] says: "I can't believe this 'Arahi' woman went down so fast. Storm my arse." Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romeo 320 Posted March 26, 2018 relax erkor, you dont have to curse inbetween each word lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insomnia 76 Posted March 27, 2018 The bot is broken right now, sure. But it'll be fixed in 7.3 as Xeslite said - bam, official GM statement. Not sure what else can be said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Setesh 0 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 0:42 PM, Xeslite said: the warden is fixed in 7.3. so you shouldn't be asking for it to be fixed. you should be asking 7.3 when? On 3/25/2018 at 4:19 PM, Erkor said: youre basically telling us its never getting fixed Erkor is right, Mortal. You are pretty much telling us it's never going to be fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidTwo 72 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 0:42 PM, Xeslite said: the warden is fixed in 7.3. so you shouldn't be asking for it to be fixed. you should be asking 7.3 when? 7.3 when?????????????????????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse 9 Posted March 27, 2018 7.3 whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn???????????????? Still have no issue with it because I build responsibly. The stars align; Elune be with you. The stars align; Elune be with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MindScape 66 Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 8:23 AM, Lord Kalrihk Blackrune said: Mindscape slowly raises out from his bush UsE mY nEw AdDoN iT wIlL StOp YoU fRoM gEtTiNg BaNnEd On 3/26/2018 at 10:45 AM, Erkor said: wowee here's tia-proxy number one "WOW just keep _MO_VING guys" No. You can't just keep moving. It's not a fucking instinct to move some units every time you build. You stand perfectly still and rifle through objects like a model catalogue. Why the fucking hell would you be forced to comply to a broken-to-shit bot just because an obnoxious staff member loves almost as much as his mirror image? It's fucking retarded. It serves no purpose. It hasn't banned anyone who intended to spawn something that could be viewed as ~~~"offensive"~~~ nor has any crasher been found by it, I fucking bet you. Everyone recently banned by this pile of shit trashcan bot has been banned while trying to find a specific object. Just use the addon m8. Warden is there to protect against abuses in the system that can lag the server or cause crashes, etc. I'm sure there's less invasive ways that it could've been implemented, like a simple kick or even a timer on spawning or such, but as Xeslite said, Warden is fixed* for 7.3. Also - Yes, the system actually did safeguard the server in the beginning when certain people were trying to attack Epsilon. There were many crashes and lag times when the server was first starting out, before Warden was integrated and amped up on Ban-Spree-Coffee, that was caused by people doing specific things, which Warden attempts to detect and kill. It so happens that spawning 10 objects without moving triggers her (but not after she gets a lobotomy in 7.3). (It doesn't detect and try and ban for offensive shit either, only stuff that can harm the server itself.. It's not some god-like AI that maps your builds and thinks "Oh that's a swastika ban.."......) But seriously, if you want to sit here and shit-throw on the forums, "IT's NOT myu NATURE to MOVVVVVEEEEEEE", take that time you were wasting on the forums, download addon, avoid getting banned by a simple text warning. Don't like it? Tough fucking luck then, kid. (And if you can't find the addon, you're clearly to lazy to read pinned messages in discord when it says to read pinned messages - again, not any of our problems, just yours). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aurot 9 Posted March 28, 2018 >not using WMV to build savages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidTwo 72 Posted March 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, aurot said: >not using WMV to build savages. what does that even have to do with the topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk 44 Posted March 28, 2018 You can use wmv to find objects you need without spawning a ton of something you don't want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aurot 9 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aurarius said: You can use wmv to find objects you need without spawning a ton of something you don't want. Didn't think I'd need to spell that one out. Edited March 28, 2018 by aurot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogan 158 Posted March 28, 2018 have you considered not building and just roleplaying instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites